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Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:41 am
7 games. 11.4 points. 3.7 assists. 1.1 steals. 0.1 blocks. 3.6 rebounds.

Steals are decent. Could easily get to 2/2.5 with the right coaching.

Assists are bad. I'd expect at least 7 (then coach him up to 10-12) from a guy you think can be a future PG.
What are the FG% numbers for his teammates? And what is the correlation of their misses? Are they from not being put in a position to make a shot, taking poor shots, poor shooting skills...? Can't get an assist if it doesn't lead to a basket. Please analyze some game tapes and get back to us on the results
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Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:14 am

So now there are no players good enough in the entire United States for ISU? Man I don't know how Duke and UNC and Kentucky do it then.

Come on man, you are just making yourself look bad.
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Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:17 am

I didn't say there azre no good players. you said I said that. I said that European players are much more prepared. which has been said by nba players themselves. on another note. I couldn't care less what others thought. I'm sure that's clear by now.

I think one days the nba will be a quarter European.

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Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:29 am

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:17 am
I didn't say there azre no good players. you said I said that. I said that European players are much more prepared. which has been said by nba players themselves. on another note. I couldn't care less what others thought. I'm sure that's clear by now.

I think one days the nba will be a quarter European.
You were obviously avoiding cpacmel's response to you which made you look bad!!

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Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:11 am

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:50 am
Europe is so much more prepared.
Again, where's the data to support your point.
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Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:27 am

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:41 am
7 games. 11.4 points. 3.7 assists. 1.1 steals. 0.1 blocks. 3.6 rebounds.

Steals are decent. Could easily get to 2/2.5 with the right coaching.

Assists are bad. I'd expect at least 7 (then coach him up to 10-12) from a guy you think can be a future PG.
ISU has had 5 seasons (4 players) where a player averaged 7 assists/game. Nobody since Jamar's junior year (he averaged 6.4 his senior year). Three of those point guards were NOT scoring PGs. The other player was a SG (Ron Jones) and played for a team that put up serious numbers. Jones averaged more assists than our PG, who was a true PG. PLee was the first player since Jamar's senior year to average even 5 assists/game (5.0).

No player at ISU has even come close to averaging 10 assists/game. Ever.

Duhon's offensive strategy is not conducive to having one player average a high number of assists. Muller's strategy before this year was not conducive to players averaging high numbers of assists.

Across the NCAA there are 10 players averaging 7+ assists/game. The best is 9.0. Finally, you're comparing NBA numbers to college numbers. The games are different . . . vastly different.

I think you need to adjust your expectations.
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Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:36 pm

Bird Friend wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:27 am

No player at ISU has even come close to averaging 10 assists/game. Ever.
Todd Starks would have :D
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Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
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I think the game is passing the united states by.
Wait... That's your answer?

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redbird Recon wrote:
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Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:50 am
I think the game is passing the united states by.
Wait... That's your answer?
As I said before he was just avoiding Cpacmel's reply.

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Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:41 am
7 games. 11.4 points. 3.7 assists. 1.1 steals. 0.1 blocks. 3.6 rebounds.

Steals are decent. Could easily get to 2/2.5 with the right coaching.

Assists are bad. I'd expect at least 7 (then coach him up to 10-12) from a guy you think can be a future PG.

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Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:20 am

Although I read about an 8'9" point guard who grew up downwind of Chernobyl. He was able to maintain the dribble with his left hand while laying down suppressive fire with his right. He averaged over 40 assists per game, largely because he eliminated all defenders.

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Can’t see if he could finish or not though!
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He looks a lot stronger that the earlier pictures ive seen of him. good stuff

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Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:53 am

2.5/1 Assist to turn over ratio I'll take for sure. I like the steal a game too.
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If TPG is turnovers per game and it is 1.0 then I like it. Just play smart please!
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Baltimore Bird wrote:
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If TPG is turnovers per game and it is 1.0 then I like it. Just play smart please!
Sorry, that is his TP Guy ranking. He only gets 1 ply
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