Muller Math

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Jesus Shuttlesworth
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Thu May 17, 2018 4:19 pm

Christian Romine is no longer listed on the official roster on goredbirds.com. #REDBIRDhoops.


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TrueRedbirdFan23 wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 3:32 pm
TIMMY wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 3:03 pm
I would believe what the coach said. There's really no reason to lie. Kids talk. Lie's get out.
And how would Dan telling the full truth in this scenario benefit him or the program?? Come on now. I don’t have any issue celebrating the situation, but let’s not be naive. He was asked or encouraged to give up his scholarship and he agreed. I am glad Matt decided to stay, he has represented ISU basketball to the highest standard from Day 1. I respect his decision.

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Thu May 17, 2018 4:55 pm

DannyCooksey wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 3:58 pm
SgtHulka wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:47 am
Let the hate fest continue. Horrible person

Thanks Matt. Luv Ya Baby!!! Glad you're here
100%.

Doesn't make sense to rag on a kid for busting his ass all the time and being a good student athlete. I am glad someone like Matt will be a fellow alum. He does his best and i'm certain he has the respect of his teammates and coaches.
Exactly right.

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Thu May 17, 2018 4:59 pm

Jesus Shuttlesworth wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 4:19 pm
Christian Romine is no longer listed on the official roster on goredbirds.com. #REDBIRDhoops.


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I was really hoping he would stay. Never played a game.

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TIMMY
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Thu May 17, 2018 5:14 pm

Interested to see if he stays at ISU on a medical. I wish him well.
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Chicagobirdfan
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Thu May 17, 2018 5:24 pm

This is great to hear. Thank you, Matt for giving up your scholarship to better the team! Great teammate!

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Thu May 17, 2018 7:27 pm

I hope they don't start teaching Muller Math in school, that would be hard to follow. However, I think if we sent him to Springfield, maybe he could straighten out the budget.

All I can say is this team seems really special, and the players think so too. How can that not get you hyped/excited for this season? Pass the koolaid!

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Thu May 17, 2018 8:07 pm

Jesus Shuttlesworth wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 4:19 pm
Christian Romine is no longer listed on the official roster on goredbirds.com. #REDBIRDhoops.


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I don't think there was ever a Christian Romine or a Santa Claus :think:

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Thu May 17, 2018 8:54 pm

Doesn't Hein want to coach? Dan's not a bad guy to learn under. And this definitely sets Matt up for a grad asst role . . .
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ILSTUGRAD11 wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:54 am
Retire 12 wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:47 am
2 things here.

1st, and most important... Matt Hein you're awesome. Thank you for everything you've done, and continue to do for this University. What an awesome gesture.

2nd, and needs to be said... I'm gong to again go back to all of the people saying Muller runs people off and overrecruits. They simply don't know the entire story, and there's more than meets the eye in situations.

What an incredibly deep roster we have right now.
Pure speculation, but the likely scenario to me is that Muller told him he wouldn't have a scholarship next year once Fisher committed and he was welcome to walk on or transfer to another school and Hein, knowing that he would likely not be able to transfer to another D1 school, opted to walk on. The spin they put on it makes it sound like Dan got the whole team in a room and said guys, we need someone to step up and give up their scholarship so we can get Ndiaye, any takers? I doubt that was how it actually went down though. Still a nice gesture of Hein to give up his scholarship and not decide to transfer. Nice to have all this depth!
Possibly. That’s how things happen in the real world. But most of our fans live in fantasy land, and believe all the coach speak and media spin put before them.

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Adunk33 wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 2:05 pm
Santa Cason wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 1:48 pm
Redbirdwarrior wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 1:45 pm
Copeland and Jefferson arent point guards, are they?

Also, has Chastain news been announced somewhere I didn't see? Officially, he's a scholarship player, no?


When was Chastain ever on scholarship?
Never
At Loyola.

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Fri May 18, 2018 6:46 am

Hein’s minutes will evaporate. He’ll graduate, and decide to move on with his life. I think he’s played his last year on scholarship at ISU. The 3-1 scholarship/pay you own way arrangement was a helluva deal for a handcuff with very little basketball talent. Not to mention, he was handcuffed to a huge bust. Hein parlayed his situation into an incredible windfall. ISU spent 6 scholarship years to basically get very little in terms of statistical production. Hein and Ndaiye got 6 free years at ISU. This is the least he can do to repay what was a poor ROI for ISU.

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Fri May 18, 2018 7:17 am

ISU FAN 1

Kinda what I was thinking yesterday once I digested the news. One thing though about Mr. Hein - he played
a lot of minutes ahead of EC and how could that be??? Obviously Coach Dan thought he brought more to the court.

To no fault of Matt - he was the best choice we had......and he had his moments.

rdt99
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Fri May 18, 2018 8:48 am

I really think a lot of Matt Hein for giving up his scholarship. That's first class. Great teammate. He will have a smaller role next year, but he can contribute. And who's to say he won't improve even more over the summer.

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Fri May 18, 2018 8:50 am

With all the guard talent we now have, I don't see Hein playing much next year. But when he makes the odd shot or two it will always bring a smile to my face. He's definitely a good person and works hard. I know the coach always appreciated that.

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Fri May 18, 2018 8:51 am

Chicagobirdfan wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 5:24 pm
Thank you, Matt for giving up your scholarship to better the team! Great teammate!
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Fri May 18, 2018 9:15 am

ISU FAN 1 wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 6:46 am
Hein’s minutes will evaporate. He’ll graduate, and decide to move on with his life. I think he’s played his last year on scholarship at ISU. The 3-1 scholarship/pay you own way arrangement was a helluva deal for a handcuff with very little basketball talent. Not to mention, he was handcuffed to a huge bust. Hein parlayed his situation into an incredible windfall. ISU spent 6 scholarship years to basically get very little in terms of statistical production. Hein and Ndaiye got 6 free years at ISU. This is the least he can do to repay what was a poor ROI for ISU.
This is an absurd comment. That's on CDM for taking that risk, not Hein. After his first year I'll admit I fully felt that he had zero business setting foot on a D1 basketball court. While he still struggled at times this past year he was easily the most improved player on the team and gave it all he had. No secret that he's not as talented as everyone else on the roster, but by all accounts he's a great teammate and busted his butt to give what he could. Now he gives up his scholarship (sure you can argue if it was given willingly or taken) to add a talented piece to this team AND chooses to stay with the program. The kid has given everything he can to help the team and I commend that and will root like heck for him. To say "that's the least he can do"? Give me a break.

Bottom line whether a guy has the talent to compete at this level and is given a scholarship is on the coaching staff, not the player. None of us here would have given up free tuition and a spot on the team had it been offered.

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Fri May 18, 2018 9:17 am

ISU FAN 1 wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 6:46 am
Hein’s minutes will evaporate. He’ll graduate, and decide to move on with his life. I think he’s played his last year on scholarship at ISU. The 3-1 scholarship/pay you own way arrangement was a helluva deal for a handcuff with very little basketball talent. Not to mention, he was handcuffed to a huge bust. Hein parlayed his situation into an incredible windfall. ISU spent 6 scholarship years to basically get very little in terms of statistical production. Hein and Ndaiye got 6 free years at ISU. This is the least he can do to repay what was a poor ROI for ISU.
I think Hein will play more than you think, but less than last year. I would guess that he averages somewhere around the 10-12 minute range.

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Fri May 18, 2018 9:51 am

TapBird2 wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 9:15 am
ISU FAN 1 wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 6:46 am
Hein’s minutes will evaporate. He’ll graduate, and decide to move on with his life. I think he’s played his last year on scholarship at ISU. The 3-1 scholarship/pay you own way arrangement was a helluva deal for a handcuff with very little basketball talent. Not to mention, he was handcuffed to a huge bust. Hein parlayed his situation into an incredible windfall. ISU spent 6 scholarship years to basically get very little in terms of statistical production. Hein and Ndaiye got 6 free years at ISU. This is the least he can do to repay what was a poor ROI for ISU.
This is an absurd comment. That's on CDM for taking that risk, not Hein. After his first year I'll admit I fully felt that he had zero business setting foot on a D1 basketball court. While he still struggled at times this past year he was easily the most improved player on the team and gave it all he had. No secret that he's not as talented as everyone else on the roster, but by all accounts he's a great teammate and busted his butt to give what he could. Now he gives up his scholarship (sure you can argue if it was given willingly or taken) to add a talented piece to this team AND chooses to stay with the program. The kid has given everything he can to help the team and I commend that and will root like heck for him. To say "that's the least he can do"? Give me a break.

Bottom line whether a guy has the talent to compete at this level and is given a scholarship is on the coaching staff, not the player. None of us here would have given up free tuition and a spot on the team had it been offered.
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