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vs. Ole Miss 12/8/18

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Phantom
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:25 am

Extremely rare thing to have a P5 team in our arena. Obviously not the prettiest start for us and we are working with a very short bench. They come in at 5-2 with losses to Cincinnati and Butler. Notable wins against Baylor and San Diego. They have given up some points on occasion.

One of two things will happen:

Rebels 89
Redbirds 73

We hang around awhile and then run out of gas/bodies.

Redbirds 80
Rebels 77

We wake up after the bitchslapping UIC gave us, finally click, hit some shots, and gut-out a win BYU style.

Before the season began, I was thinking a game like this (provided we had the momentum we expected), would be in the 9K range. Now? 6500.
Jsnhbe1Birds
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:13 am

I give them virtually no chance of winning.
ricohill
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:17 am

NET Rating:
Ole Miss - 60
ISU - 195
Buffett
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:38 am

Ole Miss beat San Diego .. who beat San Diego State by 12
Jsnhbe1Birds
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:53 am

I remember someone saying last game that we were delusional if we though ISU would beat UIC. They were right (kudos to whoever you are. Cali maybe?) I'm not sure how anyone can pick ISU to win this game with a straight face.
Retire 12
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:54 am

I'll pick ISU with a straight face.

The talent is there. Just need to have the effort match it.
Phantom
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Retire 12 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:54 am
I'll pick ISU with a straight face.

The talent is there. Just need to have the effort match it.
Boom.

As non-pretty as these first 9 games have been, and as hard as I've been on these guys, I'm still confident there's going to be a Erueka moment with this team. I thought it was the BYU game. But maybe it was getting destroyed by UIC...
birdlife
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:06 am

any status updates on copeland/chastain/bruninga/hein, specifically for this game?
RedBirdBallisLife
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:07 am

Rebels 87
Redbirds 79
ChiRedbirdfan
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:14 pm

Phantom wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:00 am
Retire 12 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:54 am
I'll pick ISU with a straight face.

The talent is there. Just need to have the effort match it.
Boom.

As non-pretty as these first 9 games have been, and as hard as I've been on these guys, I'm still confident there's going to be a Erueka moment with this team. I thought it was the BYU game. But maybe it was getting destroyed by UIC...
THe talent level on this team is an area I seriously question after watching many games. There are pockets of talent and some things the team does well but we have some holes in some areas. Isu ball handling/getting to the basket and to a lesser extent passing are a couple of areas where I believe we lack talent/skills relative to some teams when it comes to offense. But overall our offense has not been the issue as ISU can score so picking apart the offense is nitpicking. However when it comes to defense, outside of Fayne / Milik, I do not see the talent when it comes to players that can consistently and meaningfully lock down a defender, disrupt the ball handler and passing lanes, alter or block shoots and in the end go up and rip down some boards. Tinsley will do it once in awhile but does not do it near enough. Chastain was starting to make an meaningfully impact defensively but now he is gone. Hoping big Reye can play more and help but he is so raw. Overall I just do not see the defensive talent on this team.

Without knowing where we stand health wise it is hard to have a lot of confidence going into this game esp if we are 8 players with some being limited. Playing.a P5 team likely means long, tall athletic players overall so foul trouble could be an issue for ISU. Guessing ‘Birds go down by double digits
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cpacmel
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:45 pm

ISU + 4.5
Over / under 156
Jsnhbe1Birds
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:29 pm

Isu won't cover
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NaperRedbird88
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:18 pm

@Pg_Benson: Illinois State coach Dan Muller hopes Zach Copeland (knee), Matt Chastain (ankle) and/or Matt Hein (leg) will be available Sat vs. Ole Miss. "There's a chance all three play and a chance of combination of the three play," said Muller.

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Bird Friend
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:44 pm

NaperRedbird88 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:18 pm
@Pg_Benson: Illinois State coach Dan Muller hopes Zach Copeland (knee), Matt Chastain (ankle) and/or Matt Hein (leg) will be available Sat vs. Ole Miss. "There's a chance all three play and a chance of combination of the three play," said Muller.

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No offense to the Prez, but if we only get two of the three, I'd hope it's Chastain and Copeland.
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V Boy
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:54 pm

Until ISU starts playing defense it will be the Yarbrough/Jefferson show. And mostly Yarb.

They’ll have 45-50 pts and we still lose by 10-15.
ChiRedbirdfan
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 pm

Bird Friend wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:44 pm
NaperRedbird88 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:18 pm
@Pg_Benson: Illinois State coach Dan Muller hopes Zach Copeland (knee), Matt Chastain (ankle) and/or Matt Hein (leg) will be available Sat vs. Ole Miss. "There's a chance all three play and a chance of combination of the three play," said Muller.

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No offense to the Prez, but if we only get two of the three, I'd hope it's Chastain and Copeland.
:text-+1: even the Prez has a role and place
Jsnhbe1Birds
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:33 pm

V Boy wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:54 pm
Until ISU starts playing defense it will be the Yarbrough/Jefferson show. And mostly Yarb.

They’ll have 45-50 pts and we still lose by 10-15.
Have they combined for more than 40 ever before the uic game. 50 combined is pretty lofty unless that's the mindset going in
RedbirdFanatic32
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Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:39 pm

TBH, we have the talent to beat a lot of NCAA tourney caliber teams....Just depends on the night....Are we playing defense and hitting our threes? Then yeah, I like us against a lot of squads. Especially against a mediocre Ole Miss team...But even more TBH: it'll just depend what Redbird team shows up.
Optimistic pick, Redbirds:78
Rebels: 75
DannyCooksey
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Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:36 am

Hopefully we play hard at both ends for the entire game. Hopefully we come out of the game healthy also.
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