Big Ten to reopen playing FCS

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NDSU reporting Big Ten will be allowed to play FCS teams in years where they only have 4 of 9 conference games at home.

We shall see...

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So how about the wus just let's teams schedule whoever the hell they want based on what is best for their program ... you know like every other conference in every other division.
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Come on Illini, Schedule us!!!!

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Would love to play most of those teams, including the Illini.....although I think Lovie is going to make them a much better program in time. Thus, I might prefer to go back to Iowa City, over to West Lafayette, or even Minny.

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http://herosports.com/fcs-football/ever ... eason-byby

So there are going to be 98 FBS teams playing FCS games. Which means there are roughly only 28 FBS teams who are not playing FCS games this year. Which means 98 of 112 FBS teams, other than the 14 Big 10 teams, .. this means 90% of FBS teams currently schedule an FCS game .. by comparison, 0% of the 14 Big 10 teams scheduled an FCS this year.

90% vs 0% ... once again proving .. Barry Alvarez is a Wus.
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B1G 10 not playing FCS was short lived.

INST will play Purdue at Ross-Ade in 2022. Guarantee will be $500K.

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Let's get our guys over to Champaign. Surely Lovie's ego can take a punch to the chin just like Fitzy did up in Evanston. ;)

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Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:33 pm

fourthandshort wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:59 pm
http://herosports.com/fcs-football/ever ... eason-byby

So there are going to be 98 FBS teams playing FCS games. Which means there are roughly only 28 FBS teams who are not playing FCS games this year. Which means 98 of 112 FBS teams, other than the 14 Big 10 teams, .. this means 90% of FBS teams currently schedule an FCS game .. by comparison, 0% of the 14 Big 10 teams scheduled an FCS this year.

90% vs 0% ... once again proving .. Barry Alvarez is a Wus.
:text-+1: Excellent analysis! I'll bet Barry sits down to pee. ;)
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RBFANTOO wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:33 pm
fourthandshort wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:59 pm
http://herosports.com/fcs-football/ever ... eason-byby

So there are going to be 98 FBS teams playing FCS games. Which means there are roughly only 28 FBS teams who are not playing FCS games this year. Which means 98 of 112 FBS teams, other than the 14 Big 10 teams, .. this means 90% of FBS teams currently schedule an FCS game .. by comparison, 0% of the 14 Big 10 teams scheduled an FCS this year.

90% vs 0% ... once again proving .. Barry Alvarez is a Wus.
:text-+1: Excellent analysis! I'll bet Barry sits down to pee. ;)
I take very little credit, as the numbers prove Barry's Wus-ness was a mathematical certainty .. not me.

And yes, I'm pretty sure he and his wife don't fight about him putting the toilet seat down.
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Chi-bird wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm
Would love to play most of those teams, including the Illini.....although I think Lovie is going to make them a much better program in time. Thus, I might prefer to go back to Iowa City, over to West Lafayette, or even Minny.
I think Lovie was really caught off guard last year with the differences between pro ball and college ball. It was really evident when he would say things like "recruiting really is a year-round job now" and so on. I think Lovie will recruit ok, maybe Ron Zook levels (classes in the 40s/50s, maybe 30s in a good year), but I'm not sure that will necessarily translate into increased wins. I can never tell with Lovie if he really just absolutely despises the media and will not give them an ounce of insight into any granular football talk or if he really is just that much of a simpleton when he says stuff like "we gotta play harder." I don't know if there's more nuance to that concept behind closed doors or if that is the type of crap he really does say in the locker room/team meetings. There has to be a reason the Bucs let go of him pretty quickly.

For what it's worth, those late 2000s Bears players would run through a brick wall for the guy. I gradually became annoyed with him because he basically played one defense that he would never check out of, and top 15-20 NFL QBs would absolutely carve it up later on in his Bears coaching tenure.

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I wouldn't mind seeing us try to add a Big Ten school to our schedule each year. I think most would play us except for Northwestern, Nebraska, and Illinois. I feel like Nebraska usually strays from FCS schools historically anyway, and for Illinois, playing us is a no win situation. I'm not sure if we'll ever see Northwestern again.

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Lovie's defenses were a little sporadic, but his last year 2012, his defense was top 3-5 in most key stats. In 2011, defense slipped to 10-15 in most stats, But than in 2010, it top 3-8 in most key stats. But then was ranked 20th or so in 2009.

He was kind of set in his ways and maybe the Bucs players didn't take to him and buy in like his players in Chicago. But that is why I think he will do better in college once he gets the recruiting thing going. Players will run thru brick walls for him once they buy in .. made for college athlete.

As for press, I think he just figures why show his cards to press. His treatment of press is a positive virtue that doesn't play well in city like chicago, unless your winning. Very boring, but he don't care and he won't grandstand or throw his players under the bus.

Betting he will figure it all out and make Illini competitive in couple years.
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Redbird Ray wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:51 pm
...for Illinois, playing us is a no win situation. I'm not sure if we'll ever see Northwestern again.
The cost for a Big 10 team to bring in an opponent has jumped to more than $1 million. While all big 10 teams have a lot of cash, they still want to keep as much as they can. Reopening to FCS will let them keep another $500,000 or more.

Why does Illinois have more to lose playing ISU than say, Pitt and YSU or Minn and NDSU? Those are games that have been scheduled after upsets. Do we hesitate to schedule Drake?

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Chi-bird wrote:
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Would love to play most of those teams, including the Illini.....although I think Lovie is going to make them a much better program in time. Thus, I might prefer to go back to Iowa City, over to West Lafayette, or even Minny.
Purdue actually made a smart hire. Brohm will get that offense humming once he gets his guys in place. That might take some time since Purdue is pretty devoid of talent, but if we're going to try to schedule them the time had better be now before year 3 hits and his systems are fully in place.

Minnesota got Fleck and he has already shown what he can do in recruiting at Western Michigan so he should do better in Gopher Land with the B1G dollars backing him. Talent wise, Minnesota is probably just a tick below Iowa so he doesn't have a ton of ground to make up before he catches the Northwestern / Nebraska / Iowa tier, but after that there's a big gap in talent to get to the top 4 of tOSU / PSU / Wisconsin / Michigan. WMU throttled Illinois at Illinois last year 34-10 and it wasn't even that close. I'd hate to see what he might decide to do against us in his own house.

While Lovie might eventually make a difference you'd have to think that getting Illinois on the schedule would probably be the best option. Really, it's too bad Rutgers isn't closer. They suck about as bad as Kansas. Speaking of, why don't we try to get the Jayhawks on the schedule?
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A possible match-up between Illinois vs Illinois State still might be possible. For example, Iowa refused to play Iowa State since the series halted in 1934 when then University of Iowa Athletic Director and head football coach Ossie Solem would not return calls to reschedule the rivalry. However, the series was restarted in 1977 and they have played each other every year since.
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WIU Leathernecks are scheduled to play the Illini in 2018...

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chuckie1980 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:55 pm
WIU Leathernecks are scheduled to play the Illini in 2018...
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-ten ... illini.php

It's going to be a while before an ISU vs. Illini match-up.

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Salukis headed to Madtown.

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fdbird83 wrote:
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Salukis headed to Madtown.
way to think it all the way thru Barry !!!
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I like seeing an FCS team on the schedule for a few reasons. It brings in some cash to the FCS program and provides good exposure for the FCS team. That can be a bad thing if the FCS team is destroyed by the FBS team which leads to my real comment. I don't see a significant benefit in scheduling a Rutgers because they are down right now and chances are better for a "W". I also don't see much benefit in scheduling a program that likely can roll over any FCS team with their 2nd or 3rd team. As example, frankly I would not be excited about an Ohio State v ISU match-up. The Buckeyes have been just too strong and way too deep in most recent years for FCS teams to compete. I think the best match-ups are in the mid-range of the Big 10 where the chance to win is a higher percentage and the chance to be totally embarrassed is a lower percentage. The in state games with either the Illini or Northwestern seem to be good matches but I would think losing to the in state FCS team would carry a bigger stigma than if the FCS team was from out of state. I would think this would be something the ADs and coaches would take into consideration when scheduling. Northwestern's loss to the Redbirds was covered in quite a bit of detail by the Chicago media and it seems the Chicago media never mention the Redbirds at all normally.
As far as Lovie and the Illini...I have said before that I think Lovie is a solid defensive coach and an awful offensive minded coach. I think he was fired in Tampa, where honestly he was not given a fair chance, because they were bringing in Jameis Winston and they wanted a coach to develop that offensive talent...Lovie was not that guy. Why does anyone think Lovie will inject the Illini with offensive brilliance? I don't see it. The Illini will be strong on defense, the players will play hard for Lovie but they will not be a strong offensive threat. That really is Lovie's track record with the Bears and his other coaching stops. Be careful about wishing for a matchup with Minnesota though. I think the Golden Gophers have themselves a pretty good coach and I would not be surprised to see that program become a very productive one in the next few years.
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