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PurpleRedbird
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:40 pm

Interesting Davis is not on sideline. He was carrying his shoulder odd leaving field.

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cubird
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:46 pm

Very simple from here on out! All remaining games are play off games.

ChiRedbirdfan
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:52 pm

cubird wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:46 pm
Very simple from here on out! All remaining games are play off games.
If you were betting would you bet on ISU making the playoffs or not making the playoffs? playoffs looking real suspect with a remaining road game at UNI

CaliRdBrd
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:59 pm

Embarrassing.

CaliRdBrd
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:00 pm

Can we play St Xavier again?

RedbirdSoxFan
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:05 pm

ChiRedbirdfan wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:52 pm
cubird wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:46 pm
Very simple from here on out! All remaining games are play off games.
If you were betting would you bet on ISU making the playoffs or not making the playoffs? playoffs looking real suspect with a remaining road game at UNI
They will be 2-4 after next week. So I would bet “No”

fourthandshort
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:17 pm

This team's youth is taking a toll as we play better teams. That and our coaches got completely out-game planned. Back to drawing boards for OL and run game.
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:28 pm

GOP_Redbird wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:16 pm
4th and short tell me Kolbe can make that pass to Edgar...you can’t.
JMO, but Jake Kolbe over the last 3 years earned the right to be the starting QB this year and provide the senior leadership on the field that this team needed. Agree or disagree, but bottom line is, with Brady Davis the Birds will be watching playoffs on TV.

Brick
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:34 pm

No question Kolbe should be our QB now. Maybe not as strong an arm but much more accurate

Santa Cason
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:01 pm

fourthandshort wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:17 pm
This team's youth is taking a toll as we play better teams. That and our coaches got completely out-game planned. Back to drawing boards for OL and run game.
The youth is an excuse. Heard Luedke mention several SDSU players who were true freshmen.

I agree with the coaching. Don’t see many people praising Beathars these days.

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Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:33 pm

That turnover by Spencer Schnell was a long time coming. He’s been talked to about playing too fast and loose, not calling for a fair catch on punts, etc. IMO, it was a matter of time before that bit him.

Can we talk about Andrew Edgar? Breakout performance.

What happened to our run blocking?

That MoSt loss is an absolute killer, about as much as the scheduling of the STX game.

fourth- my apologies for our earlier arguments on the Brady/Jake argument. I still maintain that our coaching staff knows best in who gives us the best chance to win but I don’t believe I gave Jake as much credit as he deserves. That being said, I don’t see much upside in either Jake or Brady at this point.
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StLRedbird
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:51 pm

That was hard to watch. Rabbits owned the line of scrimmage.

CaliRdBrd
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:19 pm

Santa Cason wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:01 pm
fourthandshort wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:17 pm
This team's youth is taking a toll as we play better teams. That and our coaches got completely out-game planned. Back to drawing boards for OL and run game.
The youth is an excuse. Heard Luedke mention several SDSU players who were true freshmen.

I agree with the coaching. Don’t see many people praising Beathars these days.
Agreed. The youth thing is an excuse.

CaliRdBrd
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Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:22 pm

StLRedbird wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:51 pm
That was hard to watch. Rabbits owned the line of scrimmage.
How does the largest offensive line all pretty much all of college football get owned week after week?
Also, how bad is Colorado State considering how badly we whipped them?
Yikes!

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Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:10 pm

We should be looking for a new AD anyways, but if they don't make the playoffs because of the St. X game, Larry should be given his walking papers immediately.

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Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:44 pm

TheTruth wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:10 pm
We should be looking for a new AD anyways, but if they don't make the playoffs because of the St. X game, Larry should be given his walking papers immediately.
Spack doesn’t schedule who he wants to schedule? Pretty sure Dan does most of his own scheduling.

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RedbirdSoxFan wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:44 pm
TheTruth wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:10 pm
We should be looking for a new AD anyways, but if they don't make the playoffs because of the St. X game, Larry should be given his walking papers immediately.
Spack doesn’t schedule who he wants to schedule? Pretty sure Dan does most of his own scheduling.
There’s been some clamoring on Twitter at Randy Reinhardt to do a followup story about the scheduling of STX but he doesn’t seem willing to step on toes. Where’s Tolentino when we need him? 😂
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DannyCooksey
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Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:19 am

Atrocious performance.

I am puzzled by the inability to run the football.

Schnell and Markel with two inexplicable plays that killed any chance.

My concern now is whether the team can rebound and compete or if they run out this week and buy a few rolls of stamps and mail in the rest of the season.

ekeyfanclub
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Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:28 am

We have trouble running the ball, because we are predictable. When we go two tight ends and a full back that sends a pretty clear signal we are running. I believe we ran two play actions out of that formation. One was a first down to Scnell and one was Kolbe's first td pass.

I know I sound like a broken record, but that jumbo formation has been terribly ineffective all season outside of the SIU game. It has left us in 3rd and long all season.

I also didn't like the wildcat formation on 3rd and 5 early in the game. Another clear signal that we were running.

We need to start opening up the pass game to free up the run. I don't know why after throwing a td on the first play. We completely went away from going down field.

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fourthandshort
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Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:30 am

I think the jumbo formation works just fine ... but mainly against weaker run defenses, like we we were playing up until WIU, NDSU, and SDSU. So agree we need to disguise our run game much better than we did.

Our problem is we (coaches and fans) annointed Davis too fast. He was unproven and hadn't taken meaningful live games snaps since HS. He got off to a good start against weaker competition. But teams scout and learn tendencies about players and offenses. They figured us out ... Davis is too inaccurate and doesn't run like anyone hoped he would. He needed to be brought along more slowly. OC Beathard can't lean on his occassional deep ball capabilities .. that won't move the chains.

We have great RBs .. all we need is a QB who can keep defenses honest and spread out. Kolbe does that, Davis does not. Coaches are responsible for annointing Davis too soon. I hated the comparisons to Roberson ... he was a proven player at Indiana who saw meaningful game reps in Big 10. He was worth the gamble ... and even as he struggled his first 8 games in 2014, he could run and throw a deep ball .. plus we had a very talented senior oriented WR/TE group. I love Schnell (one bone headed play does not discourage me in the least), and love the upside on Edgar and Haley ... but they are all small with small catch radius Betting on an inaccurate QB because he "looks" more comfortable in the pocket was a risky bet. Good defenses were bound to cause us problems. And now our run game is suffering because we are playing much better defenses who have had a chance to scout us.

By the way, I didn't think Kolbe looked at all in sync yesterday. He gutted out some impressive runs, and made some throws. But he was not hitting people in stride and he threw to no one twice ... so someone missed a route adjustment (Kolbe or WR ?). Give him a full week of reps with the 1's .. and he'll start to get his accuracy back. And yes, he will "look" more uncomfortable than Davis in the pocket. But he will gut it out and he will hit open receivers in stride in short to intermediate pass game .. this will take pressure off OL and run game.

Going to platoon now would look foolish as a program. After SIU, I stopped talking about platooning Kolbe because I do agree we need to pick one. Now I don't know what the answer is. I do know Davis needs more time to figure this all out.
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