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DoubleDeuce
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:04 am

I was most impressed with the birds' FT defense. Held Lewis to 43%!

Source
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:58 am

Birdfriend72 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:43 am
SacramentoBird wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:08 am
Humdinger wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:09 am
So I wasn't there but relying on all you peckerwood peeps to fill me in...so, thanks!

I'm somewhat cautiously optimistic about Taylor. He's the most intriguing player on the team for me. I still think he's gonna struggle, and at times maybe substantially because of his high school small school background...yet part of me wonders if he'll turn into a Dan Muller as a player. I see a LOT of similarities. Although Dan was a defensive stud from day ONE.

And the thing I can't shake about Taylor is he's got great athletic chops in terms of family, which I really believe makes a difference in a player. I hope he's a really good player for us. Plus...he's just a fantastic kid.
Good stuff but remember that Rick Lamb was from a small town in Illinois and he had a pretty darn good Freshman year. Taylor does not play like a clumsy big...he moves well and can dribble drive to the hoop.
Taylor is the skill set that Jacobson turns into a star.
This. Taylor is more of a Seth Tuttle than a Dan Muller (position wise). Early comparisons are fun but Taylor will be an annoyance in the MVC for years to come.

Redbird Alum 2004
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:43 am

I wonder why the replay isn't on watch ESPN.

I think this team can win some in the ooc if we stay out of foul trouble. I think scoring wise we will be ok.

My positive take away from off the court.

1. Copeland behind the bench and engaged.
2. Elijah was very into the game. You can tell he is chomping at the bit.
3. These guys look like a band of Brothers. Seem to get along very well.

Atrey22
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:51 pm

Redbird Alum 2004 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:43 am
I wonder why the replay isn't on watch ESPN.

I think this team can win some in the ooc if we stay out of foul trouble. I think scoring wise we will be ok.

My positive take away from off the court.

1. Copeland behind the bench and engaged.
2. Elijah was very into the game. You can tell he is chomping at the bit.
3. These guys look like a band of Brothers. Seem to get along very well.
Hoping Clarence & Ndiaye heal up quickly & that Romine returns soon--we will need them ASAP as our schedule gets tough. It was great to see Copeland engaged & Chastain too. Guess I hoped (or expected) a little more from Gassman ( maybe it will come) and pleased to see Bruninga gain confidence just from the first half to the 2nd. ( I agree with a previous poster that he seems to fit into Jacobson's mold at UNI)--but am glad we have him. He can flourish under Dan's coaching. I was hoping we could redshirt him this year--but there is no way now with the injuries & lack of depth. When we get everyone back & healthy we should be pretty good--and adding a couple 6'9" freshmen next year & Chastain & Copeland to this group (and only losing Martin)--well--the future looks very bright if everyone stays (and stays healthy).
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Birdman85
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:03 pm

Hopefully some of the Gassman love-fest settles down on here. Good kid but he looked slow against Lewis. His defense is more than a liability.

DWRedbird
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 pm

Birdman85 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:03 pm
Hopefully some of the Gassman love-fest settles down on here. Good kid but he looked slow against Lewis. His defense is more than a liability.
I don't think he was slow so much as he has freshman footwork defensively. Bruninga is the same, the difference is that Bruninga doesn't have guys trying to dribble around him. Once Gassman's footwork gets better I think he'll be an average defender for our team. His length will ultimately help him more than footwork.

Offensively he had a rough, rough game. I'm going to chalk it up this time to 1st D1 game jitters. His shot looked forced, and his passes were sloppy, but I think this will correct itself in the end. I honestly think he will be more comfortable, at least right now, coming off the bench and being a spot shooter type of player. I would liken him in the end to a taller, broader Zeisloft.

Overall I think at the end of his career we will be happy to have him.

Baltimore Bird
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:10 pm

It does not appear we are getting the replay. I was able to watch some of the game, but hoped to watch in its entirety. Thank you for all of the updates guys. I feel like I watched the whole game.
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Humdinger
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:14 pm

Source wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:58 am
Birdfriend72 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:43 am
SacramentoBird wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:08 am


Good stuff but remember that Rick Lamb was from a small town in Illinois and he had a pretty darn good Freshman year. Taylor does not play like a clumsy big...he moves well and can dribble drive to the hoop.
Taylor is the skill set that Jacobson turns into a star.
This. Taylor is more of a Seth Tuttle than a Dan Muller (position wise). Early comparisons are fun but Taylor will be an annoyance in the MVC for years to come.

Interesting.

SgtHulka
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:44 pm

DWRedbird wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 pm
Overall I think at the end of his career we will be happy to have him.
Sorry, awaiting player development is not a strong suit around here. He's the first freshman to ever be a liability on defense.
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:28 pm

Redbird222 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:24 am
RedbirdSoxFan wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:15 pm
Redbird Alum 2004 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:14 pm


Sure is looking like he will be in the team next season
Throw a Redbird uni on him in December, so he's not wearing another schools uni in November 2019
Is there a possibility that he could play after the first semester or does he need to sit an entire year?
Good question. Anyone know?

cpacmel
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:33 pm

Copeland can’t play til next year.

Good interview with Taylor B after the Lewis game:


Redbird Alum 2004
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:01 pm

I can't believe there aren't even highlights of the game anywhere. Ugh

JHBird
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:52 pm

Birdman85 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:03 pm
Hopefully some of the Gassman love-fest settles down on here. Good kid but he looked slow against Lewis. His defense is more than a liability.
Yeah, he looked really bad...and he started!

JHBird
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:06 pm

RedbirdSoxFan wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:28 pm
Redbird222 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:24 am
RedbirdSoxFan wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:15 pm


Throw a Redbird uni on him in December, so he's not wearing another schools uni in November 2019
Is there a possibility that he could play after the first semester or does he need to sit an entire year?
Good question. Anyone know?
I know he can't play at all this season. Not sure of the exact NCAA rules, but this Pantagraph article says he will miss the entire season, and didn't even hint there was a possibility of playing next semester. I'd rather have him for a full two years. We'll be really good next year IMO.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/colleg ... b8eed.html

ISU FAN 1
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:49 am

JHBird wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:52 pm
Birdman85 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:03 pm
Hopefully some of the Gassman love-fest settles down on here. Good kid but he looked slow against Lewis. His defense is more than a liability.
Yeah, he looked really bad...and he started!
It was one game. I'll wait for a larger sample size. But, there are reasons the guy started as a walk-on. If he had all the tools, he would have been on scholarship here, or elsewhere, from the get go. Let him develop and find his role.

JHBird
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:27 am

It was one game. I'll wait for a larger sample size. But, there are reasons the guy started as a walk-on. If he had all the tools, he would have been on scholarship here, or elsewhere, from the get go. Let him develop and find his role.
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In Muller's press conference somebody asked basically why didn't Milik start. Coach said something about those who worked the hardest deserved to start, or something like that. To me it was calling out Milik to work harder, and a compliment to Gassman's hard work in practice.

SgtHulka
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:26 am

ISU FAN 1 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:49 am
JHBird wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:52 pm
Birdman85 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:03 pm
Hopefully some of the Gassman love-fest settles down on here. Good kid but he looked slow against Lewis. His defense is more than a liability.
Yeah, he looked really bad...and he started!
It was one game. I'll wait for a larger sample size. But, there are reasons the guy started as a walk-on. If he had all the tools, he would have been on scholarship here, or elsewhere, from the get go. Let him develop and find his role.
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bombay
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:37 am

I hate seeing Rick Lamb's name invoked when discussing a thin Freshman. Rick was a full grown 6'8", 250 pound man at 18. He had an aggressive physicality to his game that's rare in Seniors - much less Freshmen.

ChiRedbirdfan
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:39 pm

bombay wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:37 am
I hate seeing Rick Lamb's name invoked when discussing a thin Freshman. Rick was a full grown 6'8", 250 pound man at 18. He had an aggressive physicality to his game that's rare in Seniors - much less Freshmen.
:text-+1: Lamb was a truly big boy from day 1.

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Sanantoniobird
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:58 pm

Sladerunningbear wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:05 pm
With defections and injuries, etc., my expectations were low. They played a lot better than I thought they would.

MY and WT are better than MM and TH.

TB will be a player.

Definitely need DN and EC. With those two, we could be better than last year.

Plus, I just know we will finish ahead of the Shockers in the Valley this year. I just know it.
Sladerunningbear: I still don't know who TH is, but I'll take back what I said about you being crazy and MY being better than MM. He is a better overall player, and doesn't just sorta disappear in a game. No one, so far, has shown they can really guard him. You were right...my bad.

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