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Redbird Alum 2004 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:32 am
BIRDFANATIC78 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:36 am
Redbird Alum 2004 wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:04 pm
Evans
Boogie
Milik
Fayne
Romine

Elijah will be starting at some point
It is apparent that David is never mentioned...why? What gives...no progression? A seven-footer that is invisible I take that to be a bad sign.
David is great defensive stopper. Still working on his offensive game. Romine has really developed offensively. He will start.
I just realized that Romine is as tall as Phil, and 20 lbs heavier. So could be a real pleasant surprise this year. Too bad about Copeland though. We could of really used that outside shot to open up things. Milik is built pretty solid too.

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East Coast Bird wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:56 am
I saw them in Redbird with the recruits yesterday I don't know how many people that have seen them play together Madison is clearly behind Gassman and Tinsley not even close in my opinion. Especially with Tinsley he looked like the veteran on the floor. I like Roomie too big guy can score
How is MW clearly behind Gassman and Tinsley? MW looked solid defensively last year as a frosh. His shot was not good but I think he can shoot -- just needs more minutes, strength and experience on the offensive front. It seems like he has the tools to contribute on both ends.

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Tinsley rebounds probably as good as all of our bigs scored effortlessly against our guys not sure how that pans out in THE MVC and he blocked a ton of shots Gassman can pass and shoot and handles the ball pretty well. Madison usually lost control of the ball while driving to the hole and passes were picked off a bunch. Defensively he may have a edge on Gassman. But Tinsley does much more than Madison any neutral eye coming in sight first time would call those two veterans before Madison

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East Coast Bird wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:49 pm
Tinsley rebounds probably as good as all of our bigs scored effortlessly against our guys not sure how that pans out in THE MVC and he blocked a ton of shots Gassman can pass and shoot and handles the ball pretty well. Madison usually lost control of the ball while driving to the hole and passes were picked off a bunch. Defensively he may have a edge on Gassman. But Tinsley does much more than Madison any neutral eye coming in sight first time would call those two veterans before Madison
I've been saying all along that people are going to be very pleased with what we get out of Will. You can see the intangibles defensively and rebounding and can understand that he's going to provide more than just long range bombing. It's why I was banging the drum early and often on Twitter during his freshman year at Lake Land.
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East Coast Bird wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:49 pm
Tinsley rebounds probably as good as all of our bigs scored effortlessly against our guys not sure how that pans out in THE MVC and he blocked a ton of shots Gassman can pass and shoot and handles the ball pretty well. Madison usually lost control of the ball while driving to the hole and passes were picked off a bunch. Defensively he may have a edge on Gassman. But Tinsley does much more than Madison any neutral eye coming in sight first time would call those two veterans before Madison
I want to know how he will hold up against the main opponents early in the season and not the easier part of the schedule...aka MVC. He if can play with the real teams than ISU has a chance of post season play otherwise it will be year 19 and counting.

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You can't go by the "eye test" of how a JC player looks in practice. The D1 game is much faster than what WT is used to. Williams has seen the game and been able to cut his teeth at this level. You don't give him all that PT last year and have him struggle as he did as a freshmen if you don't intend on giving him MAJOR minutes Soph-Sr year.

Remember when we were having these conversations about Tony Wills after his Freshmen year? "Well, he's a backup to INSERT PLAYER HERE". Turns out he was just picking the game up and for 2 straight years ended up being THE BEST defensive guard in the league and a decent offensive weapon as well.

MW will be fine ESPECIALLY in an MVC without Wichita St. Even without Copeland, ISU should route many of these teams. I expect ISU goes 22-9 (13-5) this season and probably ties either UNI or Loyola for the regular season title.

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Redbirdwarrior wrote: ↑
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MW will be fine ESPECIALLY in an MVC without Wichita St. Even without Copeland, ISU should route many of these teams. I expect ISU goes 22-9 (13-5) this season and probably ties either UNI or Loyola for the regular season title.
Missouri State

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Humdinger wrote:Wouldn't be surprised at all if we didn't have a regular (starting) lineup until 15-20 games into season.
I would agree with this. We know Fayne, Evans and Milik are probably locks for starting spots. And then insert Romine, Williams, gassman, David, and Tinsley where you wish. I have a strong feeling clarance will earn a starting spot early and won't give it up.


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I think the lineup will revolve early and then evolve later...

To start the season....Evans, Yarborough, Fayne, David and Tinsley. Elijah will be in there during the year as well.
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Source wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:19 am
Redbirdwarrior wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:09 am
MW will be fine ESPECIALLY in an MVC without Wichita St. Even without Copeland, ISU should route many of these teams. I expect ISU goes 22-9 (13-5) this season and probably ties either UNI or Loyola for the regular season title.
Missouri State
We lost four big-time starters and our top recruit. 22-9 is a mighty proclamation. I'd certainly love for it to happen.

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The more I think about it I think the starting 5 might look like this based on rotation.
Elijah
Evans
Yarbrough
Fayne
Romine

Tinsley can play the three as well and we are thin there. Guards are deeper with Tinsley, Madison and maybe Ike

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The roster is very thin all over. Freshman will be counted on and no major injuries. It's going to be an interesting year.
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Source wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:19 am
Redbirdwarrior wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:09 am
MW will be fine ESPECIALLY in an MVC without Wichita St. Even without Copeland, ISU should route many of these teams. I expect ISU goes 22-9 (13-5) this season and probably ties either UNI or Loyola for the regular season title.
Missouri State
Totally agree with this. Missouri State has way more talent than anyone else in the MVC, IMHO. Even with the Lusk Factor, they are going to be really tough to beat.

I'll be really surprised if we go 9-4 in the non-conference part of the schedule, as the above prediction implies. I think the best-case scenario is that the team is sort of mediocre in non-conference play, given all the new faces and the absence of Copeland, and gels as the conference season wears on.

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Baltimore Bird wrote: ↑
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I think the lineup will revolve early and then evolve later...

To start the season....Evans, Yarborough, Fayne, David and Tinsley. Elijah will be in there during the year as well.
Makes sense to me.

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Coach has a history of playing 9-10 in the first few games and then tightening the rotation come conference season.

I don't see this season being any different.

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Anyone get a chance to check out the guys lately? Now that we know who is on the roster this year anyways.

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IM hearing the first couple of team activities David,keshawn,malik,phil,boogie out of the 10 healthy players right now

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East Coast Bird wrote: ↑
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IM hearing the first couple of team activities David,keshawn,malik,phil,boogie out of the 10 healthy players right now
That's a pretty big starting 5 if it were to be true

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For sure!

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